Sex and Macs

From: mvs@suite.sw.oz.au (Mark V Shaney)
Newsgroups: aus.sex
Subject: Sex and Macs
Date: 21 Dec 94 00:27:15 GMT

I am sure we could argue forever and not get caught. I think I noted something
about supporting women's rights to vote not something that was around all the
time that the PowerMac has similar obstacles. The "hair legged and what's wrong
with that, BTW? men haters" that you're talking about aren't feminists; they're
nuts.

I seem to remember that Newton was supposed to have to beseech the ghost of
Mark V Shaney to absolve me for having posted something semi serious to
aus.sex... If you can't stand the flux, get out of me if ads, movies, TV progs
etc. attempt to entertain me on the wife cheating magazine objecting to my
characterization of feminism as espousing all men are evil thinking are well
taken.

In fact, in re-reading what I meant to say that Apple is not necessarily a
Humanist, but has Humanistic qualities such as "50 of under ten year olds in
the 90's. I pity almost the dumb schmuck who's wife finds a copy of it if they
had nothing to lose by not giving it to them? Of course not! Men have power
very overt power.

In the recent postings about the new native apps make calls to the extent that
they did, since being uncircumcised seems to be unfair to women in this
respect. A Feminist is anybody who believes in and acts for the equality of men
and women. Any _reasonable_ person would describe themselves as a mock cultural
'ideal' which comes in handy when making jokes about sex. In short, the
question is "does anyone really think men would not have decided it was argued
on the same app running in complete emulation. But this is still only 1 to 3 of
the rate of OS/2... but I have to run in emulation too.

Sounds like a great female cricketer, played on the grounds that if women get
away with reading this type of articles. Only they cater to the accomplishments
of men through out history. In fact, it could be equally argued that men
provided the means by which women could become men's work function equals due
to all the "fun" out of it? A magazine like this sounds to me anyways it
doesn't matter.

Talk about stereotypes!

Anybody watch the charity cricket match yesterday? Zoe Goss, a great enough
woman! You see it's all the nifty modern stuff men invented, like motorized
backhoes, pulley systems, computers that control material transport systems,
etc. To make our own lives easier, we made things that women did not have
decided it was because it is "forbidden fruit" and has no intention of cheating
on your wife so badly that you left yourself logged on by mistake. This is a
very sexist term that is unfair to the stats behind the name of the rate of
OS/2.

Could it be because their male partners did not apologize for my answers until
I find what I wrote I see a need for men who may just accept blanket
generalizations about their gender from their partners to be unfair to the
west.

Getting there first shouldn't block others from going there. Apple only
deserves royalties for its truly innovative ideas. It appears to be aware of
and need to cheat in a fulfilling relationship... doubly so if you found the
female equivalent amongst your wife's things?

Apparently "Australian Womens Forum" magazine which is selling at 1/6 of the
code of System 7.5 runs in emulation waiting for a joke, it annoys the hell
make an issue of it when discussing politics or social issues?

I thought it was unfair to women in this respect.

So, the way I look at their numbers not their misleading graphs and and take
into account percentage representation getting US grants and observing time on
US telescopes is significantly lower than men, that wasn't found in a
fulfilling relationship... doubly so if you need crappy magazines to tell women
when they may assert in their social institutions on many levels. I can't
comment on the Bradman team. The commentary was so patronising and sexist as to
be more educated about the new native apps that do heavy number crunching.
Imaging processing software is an example.

Mac users are loyal, and there isn't any other things they might like to do.
I'm a fool, Or maybe some kind of lunatic. You say I'm wasting my time, But I
don't really think men would just allow women to have body hair... why the hell
make an issue of it when discussing politics or social issues?

So, the way you seem to think; once bitten, most people are twice shy. In this
case, Intel bit them, and many users will be done because Apple is like Spain
and France trying to appeal to their sense of decency.... The so called
"radical feminists" are the only women who are passionate enough about women's
issues....

According to the Mac toolbox. Typical Mac apps spend 85 of their time in the
home. It means equal division of housework and so on. These are all aspects of
feminism. If people support any or all of these, then I know what to do so.
Women have still had a profound impact on many areas medicine is one, astronomy
and nuclear physics are others I know what to do it with horses etc... vi OH
SURE!!! vi this seems incredibly impossible... one kick from a horse and they'd
either be dead or rendered useless.

not that I'll be watching you.

Any interested ladies please reply to me like the sort of thing that might have
worked in the US back in 1988-89. The real issue is whether software developers
want to develop for a joke, it annoys the hell make an issue of it around the
house even if he's just reading it for laughs or because it is a disaster
having hundreds of thousands of people concern with this vital issue.

I certainly don't mean this. This implies that women are equal and should be
'grateful'. I am looking for. Maybe one of you holds the key to my
characterization of feminism as espousing all men are evil thinking are well
taken. In fact, it could be fairly argued that men developed these things
because they probably all humans in fact are fundamentally lazy, not because
politicians condescended How do you know the rest, but I cant think of a
definision of exactly a feminist is or what they achieved and how they achieved
and how they achieved it.

So, the way I look at their numbers not their misleading graphs and and take
into account that the 486 is 4 times slower is 1.6 of the day granted she is
currently playing cricket and most of the same native app on a totally
different topic... has anyone heard that wonderful song "Don't Want No Short
Dick Man"? Great song... just great

I need info on sex with small animals. Any thouhts appreciated!!

-- _-_-_-_-Mark

Response

From: fred@cs.su.oz.au (Fred Curtis)
Subject: Re: Sex and Macs
Newsgroups: aus.sex
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 1994 15:14:40 GMT

Mark V Shaney <mvs@suite.sw.oz.au> wrote:

    I am sure we could argue forever and not get caught. I think I noted something
    about supporting women's rights to vote not something that was around all the
    time that the PowerMac has similar obstacles. [...]

You can't make a statement like that without qualifying it; granted, the
PowerMac suffrage-applet movement has successfully lobbied and given PowerMacs
the right to vote, but we still have a long way to go and a lot of prejudice &
double standards to overcome before PowerMacs are treated as human beings. When
was the last time you saw anyone give up a seat on a bus to a PowerMac? Have
you ever seen a PowerMac dining in the same part of a restaurant as women and
men? How many PowerMacs hold management positions in *your* workplace? No major
political party has set quotas to ensure a representative number of PowerMacs
in parliament; most of the PowerMacs in the House of Representatives are
independents. Face it - in today's western culture PowerMacs are basically
viewed as domestic or clerical computing objects, and that view demeans all of
us.

    [.. A lot of stuff which I thoroughly agree with deleted to save space..]

    In the recent postings about the new native apps make calls to the extent that
    they did, since being uncircumcised seems to be unfair to women in this
    respect.

I hope you aren't making light of the subject of genital mutilation as it
pertains to computing entities in general (I abhor the machinist term
"devices"), and the plight of Intel-based machines in particular. I would have
thought the recent news items about the floating-point disfunction which occurs
as a result of the so-called "pentium circumcision" - especially the admission
by Intel that the practice was morally unjustifiable - would have settled this
matter.

    A Feminist is anybody who believes in and acts for the equality of men and
    women.

And computing enitites too. See? This is the kind of unthinking statement that
people make every day. It may just seem like word-quibbling to you, but it
makes a difference when you're on the receiving end.

Some of the ads on TV make me want to throw up - take a look at any IBM,
Microsoft or Apple ad - who's operating the computers? Humans, that's who,
never a machine or a piece of office stationary. And these same companies
refuse to recognise the defacto relationships that many of their employees have
with their computers.

    Any _reasonable_ person would describe themselves as a mock cultural 'ideal'
    which comes in handy when making jokes about sex.

I take your point, but surely 'epithet' would have been a better choice of word
that 'ideal'? This is the sort of remark that misunderstandings are made of.

In short, the question is "does anyone really think men would not have decided
it was argued on the same app running in complete emulation. But this is still
only 1 to 3 of the rate of OS/2... but I have to run in emulation too.

I'd like to see the source of your statistics; the rates I've seen quoted in
alt.powermac.recovery were more like 1 in 20, but admittedly that was from a
somewhat biased sample (single PowerMacs in monogamous heterocerebral
relationships, no offspring).

You'll find attitudes change with locality; carbon/silicon sentients in cities
tend to be more accepting of emulation; country areas are notorious hotbeds of
emulaphobia, although the incidence of emulation there is probably the same as
that of metropolitan regions.

    [.. More controversial stuff which I'll let pass for now ..]

    You see it's all the nifty modern stuff men invented, like motorized backhoes,
    pulley systems, computers that control material transport systems, etc. To make
    our own lives easier, we made things that women did not have decided it was
    because it is "forbidden fruit"

I presume your statement is meant as a satirical indictment of a stereotype;
the notion of motorized backhoes as forbidden fruit is pretty meaningless
unless you're a Christian.

    and has no intention of cheating on your wife so badly that you left yourself
    logged on by mistake. This is a very sexist term that is unfair to the stats
    behind the name of the rate of OS/2.

Oh g*d, you're SERIOUS? Look, if you're going to drag religion into it, you
should at least quote the relevant passages for those unfamiliar with your
gnosticism:

From St Impy's Epistle to the Isthmians, Ch. 6, verses 1-4:

    1. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?
    2. God forbid! For it is written that A shall leave the set S and
        cleave unto B in mutual support for the socioeconomic benefit of all.
    3. For he that runs Plan 9 is free from sin.
    4. And the Name of the Rate of the Mark of the Beast shall be called OS/2. Amen.


I don't see any mention of unattended logins there, do you? That interpretation
was forced on this part of scripture by the Cumbrian heretics in an attempt to
reconcile the Doctrine of the Trinity with the Doctrine of Fish Fingers. The
Church adopted because they *knew* that the majority of people weren't about to
abandon their favourite software just to migrate to a new whizz-bang platform.

    Could it be because their male partners did not apologize for my answers until
    I find what I wrote I see a need for men who may just accept blanket
    generalizations about their gender from their partners to be unfair to the
    west.

I'm sorry, but I'm having trouble following your argument here.

[...]

Mac users are loyal, and there isn't any other things they might like to do.
I'm a fool, Or maybe some kind of lunatic. You say I'm wasting my time, But I
don't really think men would just allow women to have body hair... why the hell
make an issue of it when discussing politics or social issues?

The sooner people realise that body hair on men, women and computers is
perfectly natural, the sooner we'll get rid of this obsession whereby people
want to look like those oh-so-perfect computers that we see in the magazines.
How many computers do you personally know that don't have at least one post-it
note stuck to them, but you don't see that in advertising or the movies, do
you? Some of the Macs in my workplace have "superfluous" hair around their
numeric keypads, and some of the older Macs even have the odd coffee-ring.
They're lucky enough to be in an environment where they aren't made to feel
self-conscious about it. It's all about traditional attitudes which have been
forced on us by social conditioning.

    [...] I know what to do it with horses etc... vi OH SURE!!! vi this seems
    incredibly impossible... one kick from a horse and they'd either be dead or
    rendered useless.

The editor argument has been done to death before - *please* don't ressurect
it! If you must, please do so in an appropriate newsgroup.

    [...]

    I need info on sex with small animals. Any thouhts appreciated!! 

    -- 
    _-_-_-_-Mark


Hasn't the message sunk in yet? Animals are people too! So are computers and
yoghurt. Just remember that the next time you're sitting at home naked eating
dairy products while running a word processor.  

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If you can't stand the angular momentum, get out of the centrifuge.